Is there any chance of making non fixed squads so

[fjodin]

Is there any chance of making non fixed squads so we can use GRUNTZ for Modern gaming? I really love GRUNTZ and think 6 man+2attachments works well for sci-fi, but I want also to use GRUNTZ for Modern gaming, and also World War 2 and 1....
Maybe some king of optional rule can do this?

[comstar]

I personally cant see the reason why not

What sorta size squads would you be using ?

Would you be basing infantry singularly or FOW style ?

[fjodin]

Individually based.

[fjodin]

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I can make US Army rifle platoon without problem with V.1 version of rules but US Marines are a bit of problem.

US army suad is 2 fireteams (6 rifles, 2 saw) + 1 squad leader (specialist)

BUT US MARINE squad is 3 fireteams(9 rifles, 3 Saw) + 1 leader (specialist)

So USMC squad is 12 men......

[comstar]

Times the squad cost by 1.5 and and you should be good

Just limit combined shot to max 5 assit and all should be good I would of thought

[fjodin]

I have an idea how to increase unit size and still have squad attachment, by not using Swarm rule.

In v1 rules, each squad is 6 rifles + up 2 squad attachments. For EACH squad attachment you pay 2 points for base +points for weapon (wich can be not only SA but just infantry weapon, so you can increase unit size by adding ordinary rifleman).

So is it possible to make optional rule about NO limit of SA???

So you can have 6 rifles then buy 2 SAW for 6 points each (2-base+4 for medium projectile) then add 3 riflemans for 4 point each (2 base+2 Projectile Rifle) and then devide all by 2.

For example using Gruntz builder table, unit of 6 veterans with Projectile Rifles and 2 SA Medium Projectile will cost you 33 points devided by 2 = 17 points total

So add 2 more saw for 6 points and 3 more rifleman (before totaling by deviding all by 2) for 4 points each will give us 51 point devide by 2= 26 ponts for squad of 12 (9 rifleman, 3 saw)

[comstar]

So squad costs 33 / 2 = 17pts

So going by my equation it would be 33 x 1.5 = 50 / 2 = 25pts one less than yours but ether way your good to go I think

I like to see where this goes as I'm interested in making different size units as well

[inrepose]

I will work on adjusting the points to cover the squad size question. I think I will be able to find a relatively easy method of adding and removing troops. I would still recommend that squad support weapons are treated as a Squad attachment otherwise you might need to tweak further and it could fall off the rails

[fjodin]

Nov 2, 2011 20:27:56 GMT -5 inrepose said:

I would still recommend that squad support weapons are treated as a Squad attachment otherwise you might need to tweak further and it could fall off the rails

Totally agree with 2 squad support attachments!
We just need some section about adding ordinary troops with same stats as rest of gruntz. Maybe just each new ordinary soldier for additional 2-3 pts?

[fjodin]

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