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Post by gnah1977 on Apr 3, 2013 13:49:57 GMT -5
I´m not sure but i read this Mod: -------------------------- MODZ, Site 88, First Mod: Ack Ack Effect:...Negates +2 Guard bonus normally given to flying units that are moving... -------------------------- Now, where do i find this rule (+2 Guard)  Thanks! Gnah1977 |
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Post by Aristo on Apr 21, 2013 22:55:03 GMT -5
Doesn't exist elsewhere seems to be the consensus; FAQ needs to include this rule in the shoot modifier table.
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Post by Mr. Harold on Apr 21, 2013 23:25:17 GMT -5
isn't it when they are moving flank speed?
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Post by Aristo on Apr 21, 2013 23:34:06 GMT -5
I thought that just applied to any vehicle. The Ack Ack rules seem to imply that aircraft usually get a +2 to Guard while moving. Which makes sense to me, as aircraft should generally be tougher to hit.
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Post by mrmike85 on Oct 21, 2013 13:42:50 GMT -5
So my gaming group has also been discussing this same exact question for some time now and we noticed something randomly just the other day. The stats (Guard being the focus for this one) for flying vehicles are actually higher than their ground counterparts. This is where that magical +2 is from. Yes, there is not actually a +2 across the board but it would make sense. So we decided as a gaming group that the wording for Ack Ack is a little off, we are now going with a -2 to Guard for aircraft being shot by a model with this mod. It actually makes the mod worth it especially against individuals who use lots of aircraft (me included). Even though this will probably end my 'air superiority' at my local game store I do believe it is worth it overall for the continued enjoyment of Gruntz 15mm.
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Post by Mr. Harold on Oct 21, 2013 15:44:04 GMT -5
That seems reasonable to me. You'll have to let us know if it makes it too powerful.
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Post by mrmike85 on Oct 28, 2013 8:54:14 GMT -5
After playing 5 games over the last 3 days here is what I was able to find out. If Ack Ack provides a -2 Guard to Aircraft with out suffering any other modifiers against ground units it is broken beyond imagination. Had some one put it on their 'vehicle killer' and it made a very bad day for everyone. We tried giving a penalty to shoot at ground base craft which seemed to work. The only debate we had was the actual penalty, we could not decide between -1, -2, or -3. A majority decided on -2 (including myself) but their was reasons for each. I hope this gives some good feedback on our trials and tribulations dealing with this forgotten mod.
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Post by mrmike85 on Oct 28, 2013 9:05:43 GMT -5
P.S.
We ran the perk like the Advanced A.I. (so it was bought for the main weapon only).
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Post by Mr. Harold on Oct 28, 2013 11:03:02 GMT -5
That makes sense to me, it gives the same negative against ground vehicles as it gets as a positive against aircraft.
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