New to Gruntz. Love it. Have questions.

[deeman]

My buddy and I have been searching for the right game to use the slew of new awesome 15 mm models with and Gruntz is it. After a couple of games we have some questions to contribute to the upcoming errata.

Do you need LOS to a target to assault?
 
Confirm power armor is 14 and 15 and there is no 16.
 
Damage values for Support Vehicles; is the book right?
 
Are there any specific movement rules for Fighters using Prop, Jet, and Aerospace mobility?
 
Should Air Support, Ground Support, and Monsters pay +5 points for the 2nd Modz? The text in each Builder only limits them to modz from different categories.
 
Should Gruntz and Commanders pay +5 points for the 2nd Perkz?
 
If you begin an activation suppressed can you claim the no moving bonus for shooting or does using the action to remove the suppression count as moving?
 
At the end of an Assault that ends in a draw and no opposing units are still in base-2-base. Does the assault continue if both sides succeed at their Mental Checks?
 
The Assault Flow Chart requires the Defenders to make a Mental check to React Assault, although the rules make no mention of this. Is the Flowchart correct.
 
How does a flamer work?
 
With regards to str modifiers template weapons work differently for thrown grenades and fired weapons.  The -5 str penalty for everything under the template that wasn’t the initial target seems harsh for a hit result on a fired template weapon.  Should it be -3 str as per the grenade rules?
 

[timvidlak]

Jan 15, 2013 9:37:23 GMT -5 deeman said:

My buddy and I have been searching for the right game to use the slew of new awesome 15 mm models with and Gruntz is it. After a couple of games we have some questions to contribute to the upcoming errata.

Do you need LOS to a target to assault?
 
Confirm power armor is 14 and 15 and there is no 16.
 
Damage values for Support Vehicles; is the book right?
 
Are there any specific movement rules for Fighters using Prop, Jet, and Aerospace mobility?
 
Should Air Support, Ground Support, and Monsters pay +5 points for the 2nd Modz? The text in each Builder only limits them to modz from different categories.
 
Should Gruntz and Commanders pay +5 points for the 2nd Perkz?
 
If you begin an activation suppressed can you claim the no moving bonus for shooting or does using the action to remove the suppression count as moving?
 
At the end of an Assault that ends in a draw and no opposing units are still in base-2-base. Does the assault continue if both sides succeed at their Mental Checks?
 
The Assault Flow Chart requires the Defenders to make a Mental check to React Assault, although the rules make no mention of this. Is the Flowchart correct.
 
How does a flamer work?
 
With regards to str modifiers template weapons work differently for thrown grenades and fired weapons.  The -5 str penalty for everything under the template that wasn’t the initial target seems harsh for a hit result on a fired template weapon.  Should it be -3 str as per the grenade rules?
 

I'll answer the one I am sure about.

All units pay 5 points extra if they take a second perk or mod unless it is a negative mod or perk with a cost of 0 or bellow.

I believe suppressed units do not gain the +1 to hit for remaining stationary.

[inrepose]

Jan 15, 2013 9:37:23 GMT -5 deeman said:

My buddy and I have been searching for the right game to use the slew of new awesome 15 mm models with and Gruntz is it. After a couple of games we have some questions to contribute to the upcoming errata.

Do you need LOS to a target to assault? - Yes
 
Confirm power armor is 14 and 15 and there is no 16. - There is a 16.
 
Damage values for Support Vehicles; is the book right? - I think so.
 
Are there any specific movement rules for Fighters using Prop, Jet, and Aerospace mobility? - No
 
Should Air Support, Ground Support, and Monsters pay +5 points for the 2nd Modz? The text in each Builder only limits them to modz from different categories. - Yes.
 
Should Gruntz and Commanders pay +5 points for the 2nd Perkz? - Yes
 
If you begin an activation suppressed can you claim the no moving bonus for shooting or does using the action to remove the suppression count as moving? - No
 
At the end of an Assault that ends in a draw and no opposing units are still in base-2-base. Does the assault continue if both sides succeed at their Mental Checks? - It continues next activation if they assault again. It does not keep repeating that activation.
 
The Assault Flow Chart requires the Defenders to make a Mental check to React Assault, although the rules make no mention of this. Is the Flowchart correct. - Yes
 
How does a flamer work? - I think this one has been answered before.... Will have a dig for the answer.
 
With regards to str modifiers template weapons work differently for thrown grenades and fired weapons.  The -5 str penalty for everything under the template that wasn’t the initial target seems harsh for a hit result on a fired template weapon.  Should it be -3 str as per the grenade rules? -5 is the norm. Although happy to consider a -3 if gameplay suggests. I was trying to balance the game from becoming a total-wipeout for template weapons vs gruntz.
 

[demonetrigan]

Jan 16, 2013 5:07:16 GMT -5 inrepose said:

Jan 15, 2013 9:37:23 GMT -5 deeman said:

If you begin an activation suppressed can you claim the no moving bonus for shooting or does using the action to remove the suppression count as moving? - No

uhh, Robin was that No you can't claim the bonus or No Using the action to remove suppression does not count as moving?

[deeman]

Thanks for the answers! I understand not wanting temp weapons to be too powerful, but a str 7 grenade goes to str2 for everyone it isn't centered on. How about half str rounded down for everyone else under the template? Makes the lower str temps still have a good chance to hurt nearby enemies while curbing the mass killing power of those str 11+ template weapons. What do you guys think?

[inrepose]

Jan 16, 2013 8:04:03 GMT -5 demonetrigan said:

Jan 16, 2013 5:07:16 GMT -5 inrepose said:

uhh, Robin was that No you can't claim the bonus or No Using the action to remove suppression does not count as moving?

It is a no they can only aim if not suppressed because removing suppression is a "reshuffle" and a "pull yourself together" type move. It is one action to remove suppression, so you can't sacrifice the move action to aim. It is also a fair battlefield comment to suggest that a unit under fire and recently suppressed is going to have trouble exposing themselves for a careful planned and aimed return fire.

[demonetrigan]

Jan 16, 2013 10:55:24 GMT -5 inrepose said:

Jan 16, 2013 8:04:03 GMT -5 demonetrigan said:

uhh, Robin was that No you can't claim the bonus or No Using the action to remove suppression does not count as moving?

It is a no they can only aim if not suppressed because removing suppression is a "reshuffle" and a "pull yourself together" type move. It is one action to remove suppression, so you can't sacrifice the move action to aim. It is also a fair battlefield comment to suggest that a unit under fire and recently suppressed is going to have trouble exposing themselves for a careful planned and aimed return fire.

ahh thanks, agree completely with the reasoning, just couldn't tell which way you had answered it

[deeman]

Can't find anything about flamers with a forum search and would also like to know how smoke screen works for a vehicle.