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« Thread Started on Jan 15, 2012, 1:20pm »

A new post on my Blog witha couple of kitbashes and how not to do the salt and hairspray weathering technique.

Interested in thoughts on mechanics for the not-Thudd Gun too.

http://glueinthecarpet.blogspot.com/2012....sters-with.html

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« Reply #1 on Jan 16, 2012, 4:05pm »

The weathering looks excellent. I really like the red and rusty tracks. BTW: You can post pictures here, just right click on your picture in the blog and past the URL and use the image tag. I think you will find most people will still be happy to follow the blog link to read more and it is easier to get a quick view of the result. Thanks Robin

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« Reply #2 on Jan 20, 2012, 11:49am »

I think the results look good, even if they weren't quite what you were expecting. The salt and hairspray technique isn't one that I had ever heard of, so thanks very much for sharing.

I may try it out, although it could be tough for 15mm scale vehicles.

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« Reply #3 on Jan 21, 2012, 7:16am »

I agree I think salting and hairspraying on 15mm scale is a little tricky. It could be done though because modellers that complete large 1:72 or 1:100 scale Mecha often use the technique on very small arms/joints etc before they glue a bigger model together. So they are basically working on smaller components than a 15mm scale tank before bolting them together. However since it is not for showcase standard I would have thought that just painting on some rust damage could work.

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« Reply #4 on Jan 21, 2012, 7:05pm »

The salt and hairspray technique, when used correctly, is actually very controlable. My big mistake was using the GW Foundation paints and then getting frustrated and getting out the dremel. If I'd used thinner paint and wetted the model before trying to strip the salt off I think it would have been fine. I also think my choice of colour was poor as well. The red and orange, whilst striking, didn't give enough contrast. Still, it was an experiment, and not every experiment can go according to plan....

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« Reply #5 on Jan 26, 2012, 12:47pm »

I am working on some rust at the moment and should have some painted examples to share. I have never tried hairspray but I really want to. What brand of hairspray do you use and did it provide "All night lift" and the control you needed

I have heard that you can get crappy hairspray that can melt salt..

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« Reply #6 on Jan 26, 2012, 12:55pm »

Jan 26, 2012, 12:47pm, inrepose wrote:

I have heard that you can get crappy hairspray that can melt salt..

I use Silvikrin (sp?) because it's a big can and cheap.

Another good tutorial from ScaleModelMedic

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7CNFdEZnQN8

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« Reply #7 on Jan 26, 2012, 3:47pm »

Although I don't have any pictures yet, I tried out the technique on a 15mm scale model. I had to use the smallest table salt I had, but it worked out surprisingly well.

I didn't use oils, but the process went:
1. Primer (white, in this instance)
2. Black and brown paints
3. Pastels in various colours
4 Hairspray
5. Salt
6. Hairspray
7. Paint
8. Remove salt
9. Extra weathering as required

Removing the salt was relatively tough, initially. Then I used a significant amount of water to help dissolve it, and it came off much easier. I used this method on a 100 yen store truck, not a white metal or resin model, so the possibility exists that the salt may aid actual corrosion, adding even more verisimilitude.

The hardest part is finding fine enough salt for 15mm scale so the model doesn't look like it spent a decade serving as an artificial reef.

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« Reply #8 on Jan 28, 2012, 4:02am »

I used Tesco Value hairspray, as it was a big tin and cheap. I have heard that you can use baking powder as well as salt, as baking powder is much finer, but I've never tried it and I'm not sure that it wouldn't melt.

To back up what Kashirigi said, the salt finally came off when I ran the model under the tap, obviously softening the salt. I'm going to make up a couple of clunker APC's based on tank model kits too, probably Pz1's or Stuarts ao I'll have another go but airbrush on the base coat this time.

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